Guide talk:Class setups
Script Errors
After some recent updates, many of the item links starting from the bottom are replaced with "The time allocated for running scripts has expired." I don't know when, but it was working earlier today. --Charjet (talk) 19:36, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- We know of the issue, and we're working on a fix. Temp35 (The One True King) (talk) 19:44, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, good. Thinking back, I probably should've guessed that-- sorry for being a bother. --Charjet (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
- The issue was resolved, so this thread longer serves a point. --Charjet (talk) 22:57, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
Huh.
Only just found out that the start is copied from the Terraria Wiki.
151.225.52.44 15:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
- This is the same on most 'global' pages, there's no problem with this. Temp35 (The One True King) (talk) 16:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Luxors gift
I think Luxors gift should be in with the other things for all classes pre-boss, as it provides a decent bonus for all classes
victide
victide gear should be removed ferom the pre boss setups as victide is made with victory shards and victory shards are dropped by the BOSSES: Desert scourge, EOC and aquatic scourge
- The materials are also dropped from Cnidrion. — Godslayerchickennugget (talk | contribs) 20:28, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
- oh ok, I didn't know that
Vampiric talisman
I feel that the vampiric talisman should be added to rouge class accessories pre-yharon (Phase 2), pre-Scal, and endgame because as your damage increases the vampiric talisman heals you way more and becomes incredibly useful. Am I right?
Content
- Are you supposed to kill cryogen before the mech bosses? I'm not sure, though the darkecho greatbow is in the pre-mech section. Because of the vagueness I've just used boss checklist.
- How "complete" should this be? Eventually every weapon? This isn't written anywhere so I've just been adding things I find during playtime.
--Mythilie (talk) 10:28, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, there's a foreword on the page detailing why we try to only have a few weapons in each tier. Secondly, Cryogen, Aquatic Scourge and Brimstone Elemental are considered on the same tier as the mech bosses, so the player can tackle them in any order. This is why we don't list those weapons until after that. Temp35 (The One True King) (talk) 10:34, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
P90 op
Alright so to all the wiki contributors, I recently found out p90 is really good and lasts until pre-moonlord. Could somebody add it?
fossil armor should be remove because it doesnt have rogue damage it has thrower damage
fossil armor
it should be remove because it does trower damage and not rougue damage
Pwnagehammer
Can someone remove the pwnagehammer and upgrades from rogue class.
Nanoblack Reaper The melee version of the nanoblack reaper is no longer available, and it should be removed from the melee post-supreme calamitas section
Why is Sparkling Empress in the pre-boss mage category when it says it can be found by fishing in the sunken sea AFTER desert scourge?
Broken hero sword stuff
How are true night's edge / true bloody edge / true excalibur in pre-calamitas/plantera section when broken hero sword is obtainable only from calamitas and mothron?
- Class setups is not updated yet. There is a large banner at the top of the main Class setups page saying so. Temp35 (The One True King) (talk) 21:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, my bad. Sorry for the trouble. Sincerely, czaciej.
terratomere
Terratomere is in pre moonlord mele it needs ubelibloom
- Please read the rest of the talk page before posting, to see if your question has been answered already. In this case it was answered not even four lines above: Class setups is not updated yet. Temp35 (The One True King) (talk) 11:04, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Sparkling empress needs to be removed from Pre-Boss
The draedon update (i think) made the Sparkling empress post ds. Making it not a pre boss item
Bouncing Eyeball
A very good weapon for the rogue at the beginning of the game, especially for the battle with the desert scourge due to his stealth attack that pierces all his segments, 1 shot in revenge + death + malice mode if adrenaline is active. I was always surprised that this weapon is not recommended
Flarewing Bow needs a "?" as it requires Mythril/Orichalcum Anvil
The Flarewing Bow at the pre-mechanical stage need a question mark as it does require the Mythril/Orichalcum Anvil. If playing with the changes making it technically a post 1st mech boss.
Ammunition
Ammunition section of page needs to be updated to include new types of ammunition, as well as some vanilla ammo. Basically, this section of the page needs a major overhaul, and I can't do it myself because the page is locked.
Silver bullets should be added to pre-boss and pre-perforators. They have decent damage and are viable at this time.
Unholy arrows should be added to all of pre-hardmode, they are are a viable alternative to jester arrows, albeit weaker.
Meteor shots should be added to pre-boss, they are technically available at any time, even earlier than superball bullets.
Holy arrows should be added to all of hardmode, but marked with a ? for pre-mech. They are the best arrows before Moon Lord because of their excellent damage output and piercing capabilities.
Exploding bullets should be added to pre-mech and pre-calamitas/plantera. They have good damage and AOE, simple as.
Chlorophyte bullets should be added to pre-golem. I don't need an explanation for this, they are in the pre-calamitas/plantera section and the pre-lunar events section so they should be put here.
Arctic arrows should be added to pre-calamitas/plantera. They have good damage and inflict glacial state.
Frostspark bullets should be added to pre-calamitas/plantera. They inflict good debuffs and have a damage bonus to immune enemies.
Verium bullets should be added to pre-calamitas/plantera. They are powerful and have a similar ability to chlorophyte bullets.
Enhanced nano rounds should be added to pre-golem and pre-lunar events. They are similar to chlorophyte bullets and have good damage output.
Terra arrows should be removed from pre-providence. They are really bad when compared to other arrows available at this tier, and should not be advised to be used.
Elysian arrows should be added to pre-providence, pre-polterghast, and pre-devourer of gods. They are basically better holy arrows and are even advised to be used by some guides on this wiki.
Acid rounds should be added to pre-providence. Their plague debuff and high damage make them a decent choice at this stage.
Luminite bullets should be added to pre-providence, pre-polterghast, and pre-devourer of gods. They have excellent damage and piercing and ignore invulnerability frames, making them particularly devastating
Bloodfire bullets should be added to pre-polterghast, pre-devourer of gods, and endgame. They are advised by most boss guides and are generally powerful.
Holy fire bullets should be removed from endgame. They are good, but not viable at this stage.
Vanquisher arrows should be added to pre-yharon, pre-exo-mechs/supreme calamitas and endgame due to their excellent damage, splitting capabilities and god slayer inferno debuff. This makes them the best arrows in the game.
God slayer slugs. should be added to pre-yharon, pre-exo-mechs/supreme calamitas and endgame due to their excellent damage, piercing capabilities, and warp-explosion ability. This makes them the best ammunition in the game for guns, second to none in damage and piercing.
Put a ? next to all wings and evasion scarf in the 'Pre-Mechanical Bosses' section
There should be a ? next to all wings and the evasion scarf in the pre-mechanical bosses section, as they require the orichalcum/mythril anvil to craft. And in the hardmode progression rework, you need to defeat at least one mechanical boss to get mythril/orichalcum.
Abbadon
Abaddon should be replaced with ankh shield in the pre-calamitas/plantera section. Abbadon is basically useless in boss fights and grants no defence, does not have knockback immunity and grants immunity to far less debuffs compared to the ankh shield. So Ankh shield is objectively better
- Abaddon provides resistance to brimstone flames, which is inflicted by all of Calamitas' attacks. That's why it's listed there.Hail-gpuser (talk) 15:15, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
Star Cannon
The star cannon does far more dps with than literally anything else in pre hardmode for rangers so why is it only in the post skele tier? also unless I am missing something, it can be obtained pre boss. It can be obtained pre-boss, but is impractical to do so as meteorites are meant to be mined after the Eater of Worlds/Brain of Cthulhu following the normal sequence
Proporse Pistol
The proporse pistol does around triple the dps of the polaris parrotfish at max stage so it should probably be there instead of the parrotfish because A: you don't have to fish and B: don't have your stage reset upon you taking damage or it expiring naturally (btw that thing takes way too long to ramp up)
No "Ω" on Strings in Pre Perforators/Hive Mind?
While I understand why they would be useful with the Riptide, the yo-yo, they don't have an Ω symbol with it, so I'm wondering if there's supposed to be a symbol there but they forgot, or if they added a new use for string outside of yo-yos. Sorry if I'm just being "negative brain function".
- Yoyos are effective with or without strings. That's why they are not marked with an Ω. UmbrellaLeef (talk) 13:17, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Early Hardmode Rework options
I've talked about this on discord before, but I just wanted to make sure everyone has a chance to weigh in: How do people feel about removing the options for those with the early HM rework disabled? It's been pretty successful, and the cluttered options are both messy to look at and have confused a decent amount of new players. It's been long enough that I don't know its worth keeping these options here anymore, but I'd like to make sure there's a consensus before doing anything here. Hail-gpuser (talk) 15:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- I fully support this, most of the non-rework options are in the Pre-Calamitas/Plantera section anyway. UmbrellaLeef (talk)
Cobalt Armor
New cobalt armor is quite good. It provides a lot of movement speed and decent offensive stats. Its armor rating is better than statigel and its offensive stats are better if the player is moving fast enough to max out the set bonus, which isn't hard. I'd say it should definitely be included there. (Putting this here to avoid edit warring over this).
- I was only looking at the base stats, not the set bonus. My apologies, feel free to re-add it UmbrellaLeef (talk) 10:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Isn't molten armor pre-boss in tmodloader?
First up: I am new to using discussions in wiki's like these, but back to the topic. Sure they'd be both hard to grind for, but reaver sharks in tmodloader still have 100% pickaxe power, and with hellstone having 65% pickaxe power requirement, and obsidian 55%, along with the hellforge not even requiring pickaxe power, shouldn't that consider it a pre-boss set? Hoovy (talk) 21:53, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- Technically, yes, but it's not really intended to be pre-boss so we consider it to be sequence breaking and don't include it. Temp35 (talk) 21:57, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Daedalus Set In Pre-Golem Mele?
I am Confused On why The daedalus set is in The section for Pre golem Mele When It can be crafted Right after Cryogen Has been Defeated And the player has optained a Titianium/Adamantide Pickaxe? SpikedBro (talk) 16:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
weird error text on hardmode content
just reached hardmode for the 50th time cuz i felt like restarting- trying out melee this time- but all of the class setups content for the hardmode section is looking kinda screwy. thumbnails for items are replaced by some error text, saying; "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination." is it just my pc being weird, or are y'all having this same issue? Breaddo (talk) 23:32, 15 December 2022 (UTC)